DiscoverIntelligence; Optimised Podcast#53 Redesigning Childcare for Productivity & National Growth | Madeline Simmonds & Jen Fleming - Part 1
#53 Redesigning Childcare for Productivity & National Growth | Madeline Simmonds & Jen Fleming - Part 1

#53 Redesigning Childcare for Productivity & National Growth | Madeline Simmonds & Jen Fleming - Part 1

Update: 2025-09-30
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Why childcare subsidy reform matters for productivity and family policy. Hear from parents leading the national debate.

In this Part 1 episode of Intelligence Optimised, Todd Crowley speaks with Madeline Simmonds and Jen Fleming, co-founders of the 4 Parents advocacy group, about the critical intersection of childcare policy, productivity, and family wellbeing.

Simmonds and Fleming are driving a national petition—already with more than 18,000 signatures—urging the federal government to rethink how childcare subsidies are delivered. Their core proposal is simple but far-reaching: pay subsidies directly to parents, mirroring the National Disability Insurance Scheme, so families can choose the care model that actually fits their circumstances. This could mean grandparents, nannies, or au pairs—options currently excluded from subsidy support.

The discussion dives into the Productivity Commission’s 2024 report on early childhood, which set out 56 recommendations and a pathway to universal childcare by 2036. Yet the lived reality for families shows systemic gaps: long waitlists in childcare deserts, shift workers paying for unused places, parents facing 300-kilometre round trips, and families locked out by health or disability needs. The conversation highlights how rigid models leave many without viable choices, forcing some women out of the workforce and dragging national productivity down.

This episode covers:
✔️ Why current childcare subsidies don’t fit modern family and work patterns  
✔️ The call to fund parents directly and broaden approved care models  
✔️ How lack of flexibility impacts productivity and workforce participation  
✔️ Stories from rural, shift-working, and medically vulnerable families  
✔️ The wider economic cost of childcare-related sickness and absenteeism  

For policy advisers and planners, the implications are clear: flexibility in subsidy design is not just a family issue—it is an economic and workforce priority. Listeners gain concrete insight into how policy can close gaps, reduce hidden productivity costs, and better align with contemporary work and family structures across Australia.

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#53 Redesigning Childcare for Productivity & National Growth | Madeline Simmonds & Jen Fleming - Part 1

#53 Redesigning Childcare for Productivity & National Growth | Madeline Simmonds & Jen Fleming - Part 1

Todd Crowley